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Substitutes Are Like a Box of Chocolates

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Richgroeneveld_max50

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Posted 7 months ago

 

Tell some of your best and worst experiences with substitutes.

Kelly_laptop_max50

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So true! I have a hard time finding a sub at all who will come in and brave computer class. Since I am at a private school, we only have about 20 subs to choose from on our school approved list. It can be hard to find one last minute!

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How about from the other end? When I subbed, what I disliked was going into a class and being given directions that made me, in effect, a baby-sitter: showing movies and distributing hand-out after hand-out (many of which, I suspect, were strictly "busy-work.") Only on rare occasions did I actually get a chance to teach. Sure, I was a "sub", a substitute - but the full title is substitute TEACHER.

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I am currently working as a substitute teacher in NY not by choice but necessity. I am having a hard time finding a full time position because there are currently too many people with the same certification. But what really bothers me is the lack of respect that subs get. I have 4 years of teaching experience in a private school, a masters degree, and I am certified. Subs have the same credentials as other teachers, a degree and certification. We had to go through the same training as full time teachers. And yet I find that full time teachers complain about subs. It's not right. Sure you have good ones and bad ones but the same goes for full time teachers too. And without subs full time teachers couldn't take a sick day or vacation day. So why not show a little support.

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I agree that subbing can feel like baby sitting but sometimes it's hard not to do just that. Sometimes its last minute, the teacher is unprepared and leaves no notes, or in my case, an invited guest speaker was a no show. For all of the aforementiond reasons, I try to stay on the ready...keeping a backup plan available.
I've been on the other end of the spectrum also relying on subs. Most of them did as well as could be expected...given it was a computer class. Thankfully I had students that helped get them through it. Looking back, half of the subs followed my directions and the other half did not. When putting together a sub-packet for my class, I try to take into account that the sub may range from knowledgable to knowledgeless. (Yeah, I know its not a word. I could have said SUB standard) Anyways, I leave easy to follow lesson plans not because I think the sub is a worthless dworb, but just in case. The sub can of course, expand on it if they have the wherewithal. I'm just trying to make the day as stress-free (and productive) as possible for everyone concerned.
But I must say It has crossed my mind (yeah I know I'm about to expose my insecurities) that subs are like voltures just waiting for me to keel over and die so they can swoop in and take my job. I think this especially of the good ones. They do an excellent job in an effort to make me look bad...ok, I don't know where that came from...scratch it.

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What a luxury it must be to have subs. In my part of New York City subs are unheard of. When a teacher is out for any reason, illness, personal day, training, etc., five other teachers lose a prep period to cover that teacher's classes. When that happens we are supposed to come in with a prepared lesson, even though the class you are covering may be on a different grade (I teach 6th but often have to cover 8th), different subject, or have already done the lesson you have ready. Sometimes you get informed of the coverage during a class ten or fifteen minutes before you are supposed to do it.

I started out as a sub in a nice suburban district where the teachers were helpful and appreciative. My experiences there helped me realize that I wanted to be a teacher, wanted to teach special ed, and wanted to work in the inner city where I grew up and no subs dare to venture.


"Learning is not attained by chance, it must be sought for with ardor and attended to with diligence."

~~ Abigail Adams (1744 - 1818)

Bobblehead_max50

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Rate This | Posted 7 months ago

 

Well that little luxury almost changed last week. I'm in California and because of the massive budget cuts, staff here was told by our principal that if we had more than 4 absences per year we'd forfeit our right to have a sub cover our class. Our students would have to go home for the day. Fortunately, several teachers cried foul and he rescinded. Wheeeew, what a relief! Sometimes you don't know what you got 'til its gone.
And for the record, I really do appreciate subs...good or bad. But I prefer good.

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Rate This | Posted 6 months ago

 

 Finding a good sub is hard the whole year, but especially toward the end of the year. The students seems to be too comfortable with the regular list of subs and are more likely to be disrespectful. I try to be out as little as possible, but when I am, I leave really detailed plan. What burns me up the most is when the sub doesn't follow my plan at all!

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Rate This | Posted 4 months ago

 

I came back from a week of having the flu my third year of teaching and...about 4o% of my classroom supplies were missing.  The substitute never locked my classroom door after leaving.  My classroom became the "one stop shopping store" for students and teachers.  Too bad you can't nail everything down to the floor like they use to do with the student desks. 

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johnslat says ...

How about from the other end? When I subbed, what I disliked was going into a class and being given directions that made me, in effect, a baby-sitter: showing movies and distributing hand-out after hand-out (many of which, I suspect, were strictly "busy-work.") Only on rare occasions did I actually get a chance to teach. Sure, I was a "sub", a substitute - but the full title is substitute TEACHER.

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johnslat says ...


How about from the other end? When I subbed, what I disliked was going into a class and being given directions that made me, in effect, a baby-sitter: showing movies and distributing hand-out after hand-out (many of which, I suspect, were strictly "busy-work.") Only on rare occasions did I actually get a chance to teach. Sure, I was a "sub", a substitute - but the full title is substitute TEACHER.

Thank you John.  I am not a babysitter.  When I sign up for an assignment, I make sure to email the teacher I'll be subbing for.  I let them know that I am comfortable TEACHING.  I give them a quick overview of my qualifications, hoping they will not leave busy work.  If I'm going to be in a class more than one day, I make sure that I have plenty learning activities to keep the students actively engaged.  An idle mind is a terrible thing! 


It's rare for me to even have to sign up for an assignment.  Luckily, I get calls almost daily (during the school year) from teachers who want someone to teach while they are out.  Those are my favorites.  I know I will walk into those classrooms, and the teachers will leave well laid out instructions, lesson plans, and emergency information. 


At the end of my assignment, I leave a detailed letter to the teacher letting her/him know everything we did, how we did it, who did it well, and who had some difficulty.  I also leave a list of students who were helpful, and not so helpful, and any actions I may have taken with those students. 


So, please remember, the sub may only be as good as the material you leave them.


 

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 When I subbed, I never had the chance to e-mail the teacher - or even to know who she/he was. The central office would call at about 6:30 a.m. and tell me only the school and who to see there.


I ended up subbing for all sorts of classes: math, science, shop and even (believe it or not) dance.

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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

  In Macedonia subs usually cover other teachers who are absent but they have to be from the subject they teach. They have the same rights as other teachers and if they work for 4 years they automatically become full time teachers.


  You can't cover other teacher's classes if you teach different subject.


  Here you can finish faculty for only one or two subjects. I can teach English and German.

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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

Most substitute teachers I've seen (in NYC) would be happy to be given anything. Usually, they are given the keys and ignored for the rest of the day unless something terrible happens during the day.  Teaching is the last thing they think about.


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How about from the other end? When I subbed, what I disliked was going into a class and being given directions that made me, in effect, a baby-sitter: showing movies and distributing hand-out after hand-out (many of which, I suspect, were strictly "busy-work.") Only on rare occasions did I actually get a chance to teach. Sure, I was a "sub", a substitute - but the full title is substitute TEACHER.

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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

we don't really have a sub pool. we have 2-3 subs, and if they are unavailable then teachers use their prep time to cover. i've learned from experience that if i have to get a sub, its one day's worth of work...lost. even when i call in sick i email instructions and our subs NEVER follow anything and are paid babysitters. my students hate when they have subs because they know that not much is going to get done and when i get back its really going to be back to the grind. i really really wish we had a better sub selection.

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johnslat says ...



 When I subbed, I never had the chance to e-mail the teacher - or even to know who she/he was. The central office would call at about 6:30 a.m. and tell me only the school and who to see there.


I ended up subbing for all sorts of classes: math, science, shop and even (believe it or not) dance.



I bet you were an awesome dance teacher!  You should give lessons at your current site!


 

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johnslat says ...



 When I subbed, I never had the chance to e-mail the teacher - or even to know who she/he was. The central office would call at about 6:30 a.m. and tell me only the school and who to see there.


I ended up subbing for all sorts of classes: math, science, shop and even (believe it or not) dance.



I bet you were an awesome dance teacher!  You should give lessons at your current site!


 Only if the students let me lead.


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Rate This | Posted 2 months ago

 

After this semester (September to December), I will be a box of chocolates. I hope all goes well!!!


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